Should Christians Shoot to Kill in Self-Defense?

Don Boys, Ph.D.

I have been asked if Christians should “shoot to kill” in self-defense, No, they should shoot to stay alive! A truism very appropriate today in America is, a gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. Courts have ruled that the police have no legal obligation to protect you.

In real, everyday life, you and your family are on your own! As Dad you are to be the provider, priest, and protector of the family. You are the paladin "Have Gun, Will Travel" and that means you may have to shoot another person to keep the family safe.

Most Americans admit that self-defense is American but is it Christian? I think so, although many will disagree.

In Genesis 14, some kings kidnapped Lot along with others and fled the countryside. Abraham, being responsible for his nephew, armed his 318 trained servants and pursued them almost to Damascus. He fought the enemy and brought back Lot, his family, and servants and all the bounty. Abraham believed in using force.

It is never mentioned by pacifists that Hebrews 11:34 highly commends Abraham and other famous Old Testament men who were very aggressive against wrong. In fact the writer says they “waxed valiant in fight.”

In Exodus 22:2 God permits the defense of your home. If you are awakened during the night by a thief in your house, you have every right to kill the invader without any sense of guilt. However, if it is daylight you do not have the right to kill the intruder unless he tries to kill you.

All right, but what about the New Testament teaching? First of all, no Christian has a right to retaliation or personal vengeance; however, he does have a Scriptural and constitutional right to defend himself, his family, and his property.

In Luke 19-11-27, Jesus describes a king who killed those who opposed him. According to many authorities, the king in the parable represents Jesus Himself when he returns to set up his kingdom on earth. If killing is always wrong, then why would Christ use a parable wherein one representing Himself kills someone?

In all the examples in the Gospels, Christ or His disciples never told a soldier to not fight or not kill in time of war or self-defense. They had many opportunities to make the point if they wanted to make it. They did not.

Those who boast of not believing in self-defense are almost always inconsistent. They will use seat belts, locks on their autos and homes, take flu shots, etc. but balk when it comes to protecting themselves with guns. Evidently they believe in a “little” self-protection but not “big” protection. Or do they believe in protection against “things” but not against people? Or do they know what they believe?

What pacifists do know is that they have the freedom to espouse their illogical talk because brave, aggressive men like General Patton kicked down the tyrants’ doors to maintain the freedom for pacifist doves to fly around cooing “peace, peace;” when they did nothing to produce that peace. National defense, like self-defense is not wrong—it is right.

Quakers and others opposed to weapons point out the absence of swords or their use in the New Testament after the Book of Acts, but so what? The Bible doesn’t refer to sandals after the Book of Acts, but does any sane person believe Christians did not wear them?

Swords were common in those days, so if it was wrong for believers to own or use swords, we can expect Scripture to clearly say so; but it doesn't.

My critics point out that Jesus told Peter to put up his sword when he cut off the servant’s ear during His arrest in the Garden; however, Christ was clearly saying that His time had come for Him to die for man’s sins, so Pete was not to attempt to stop what must take place.

“But self-defense is so unlike the gentle and mild Jesus” says someone; however, let me point out that the “gentle and mild Jesus” drove the moneychangers out of the Temple with a whip.

One of Christ’s last commands before going to Calvary was to tell the disciples to sell their cloak and purchase a sword! (Luke 22:36) The meaning is, let him procure a sword at any expense, even if he is required to sell his clothes for it, intimating that the danger would be very great, and a sword would offer protection from wicked men.

My critics say that Christ did not mean to purchase a sword; He only meant that they would face many battles as they preached the gospel. Not so, because in verse 38 the disciples said, “Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.” No figurative language there. Christ told them to possess swords as they traveled the world preaching the gospel, although two swords would be sufficient.

Why did He tell them to purchase a sword? Because shotguns had not been invented yet! A used shotgun will be much more practical than an extra suit. Have you obeyed His command?

If you permit a murder or rape of an innocent child when you could have stopped it, then you are morally responsible for it. Go sell your suit and buy a gun, learn to use it, and be willing to use it when necessary. However, remember if you carelessly shoot the Avon lady or paper boy, you will have to take the responsibility.

1.1 The morality of arming and organizing
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Memorize: "He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.'" — Jesus Christ (Luke 22:36)
1.1.1 Biblical inspiration and authority
Before we can rightly consider arming and organizing ourselves as a militia, we must consider whether or not doing so is the right thing to do. Later on we will see that we have the historical and constitutional right to form a militia. But ultimately, right and wrong is determined by God's will, and God's will is determined from the Bible. Why turn to the Bible to answer our questions about right and wrong?
If you are a Bible believer, you must be committed to following its moral standards. If you do not believe the Bible, you should still know and weigh what it says and use it to justify your actions to Bible believers.
To answer this question we will briefly look at what the Bible says about its own inspiration, inerrancy, sufficiency, and authority.
First, look at 2 Timothy 3:16-17: "All Scripture is God- breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Here the apostle Paul is teaching us that the Bible (or Scriptures) are inspired by God or God-breathed. Take careful note of two things that Paul says are God-breathed or inspired. He says that "all Scripture is God-breathed." Notice here that it is the actual Scriptures themselves, the words of the Bible, that are inspired (God-breathed) and not simply the authors. God gave us the precise wording of the Bible in its original Hebrew and Greek, not just the main ideas. Paul also says that "all Scripture is God-breathed." It is not just portions of the Bible that are inspired but all of it. We therefore say that the Bible is the word of God! This testimony that the Bible is the word of God runs throughout the whole Bible. (See, for example, Exodus 34:27, 2 Samuel 23:2, Jeremiah 26:2, John 12:49, John 17:8, 1 Corinthians 14:37, and Revelation 2:18.)
Now to say that the entire Bible is equally inspired word-for- word does not necessarily mean that it is all of equal value or interest to us. It simply means that word-for-word it all came from God.
The Bible is word-for-word the word of God. Therefore it is completely true or without any errors. This is what we mean by "inerrancy." Think about it. If God knows everything (1 John 3:20) and cannot lie (Hebrews 6:18), and if the Bible's words are God's words, then there cannot be any mistakes in the Bible. Otherwise, God would either have to be wrong himself or lying to us.
While this line of reasoning is undeniable, the Bible does not leave us to make our own conclusions about its truthfulness. The concept of infallibility or inerrancy is clearly the Bible's own teaching about itself. Jesus said, "Not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the Law" (Matthew 5:18). In other words, the Bible must be fulfilled in the smallest detail. He also taught that "the Scripture cannot be broken" (John 10:35) and praying to the Father stated, "Your word is truth" (John 17:17). God's word can only be truth if it is free from errors. Remember in school when true or false questions on tests were false if any part of them were wrong? Luke wrote his gospel "so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught" (Luke 1:4). Peter wrote, "We have the word of the prophets made more certain" (2 Peter 1:19). More certain than what? Read 2 Peter 1:16-18. Peters says that the word of the prophets is more certain than his own eyewitness experience of Jesus Christ.
Now the fact that the Bible doesn't have any mistakes is not simply "academic" truth. It is of immense practical importance. Only if it is all true can we know for sure that any particular part of it is true. Do you want to do right by obeying a command in the Bible only to find out later that you were wrong to do what you did? Of course not. We need a Bible that is true throughout to have any real hope of pleasing God.
There is still more you need to know about the Bible. Not only is it God's word, not only is it true, but it contains everything you need to know about God and your relationship with him. The fact that it is everything we need to know is summed up by the word "sufficient" and is clearly taught by Paul the apostle in 2 Timothy 3:15-17. It tells us everything we need to know for salvation (2 Timothy 3:15), truth (2 Timothy 3:16), and good works (2 Timothy 3:17). This is why the Bible tells us over and over again never to add to it or to take away from it (Deuteronomy 4:2, Proverbs 30:6, Revelation 22:18).
Now when we say that the Bible tells us everything we need to know, we need to realize that some things are stated directly and some indirectly. A good algebra textbook, for instance, may not give answers to every algebra problem. Yet is does fully define the rules and principles by which every algebra problem may be solved. The Bible likewise contains all that we need for our relationship with God even if it does not provide direct answers for every problem or question we face. On such indirect issues we must draw valid conclusions based on what Scripture does say.
This leads us to the final point which needs to be made about the Bible: the Bible alone is authoritative meaning that it, and only it, must be completely believed and obeyed. Since all of the Bible is God's word we cannot pick and choose what we want to obey. Since it is all true we cannot neglect a portion of it by raising doubts about its reliability. Since it contains all we need for our Christian walks we cannot appeal to something or someone besides the Bible as our final authority on some issue.

We cannot argue with any part of the Bible any more than we can argue with God himself! God has "laid down precepts that are to be fully obeyed" (Psalm 119:4). If we disobey, we will surely fail (Matthew 7:24-25).
We must make sure that whatever we do in any department of life, including the use of force, conforms to the truth and moral principles of the Bible.
1.1.2 The continuity of the Old and New Testaments
If the Bible is the word of God, is it a self-consistent message? Yes! Some sincere Christians believe that the New Testament overturned the Old Testament rendering the Old Testament obsolete. But this is false.
The New Testament did not change or overturn the moral principles of the Old Testament. It simply clarified, developed, added to, or fulfilled them.
Look at what Jesus Christ said: "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law and the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, unto heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of the pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished" (Matthew 5:17-18). Several things should be noted about these two verses.
First, Jesus did not abolish what the Old Testament said. In the Sermon on the Mount, Jesus did not contradict anything said by the Old Testament. Rather than abolishing the law against murder, he went beyond it to prohibit hatred (Matthew 5:21-22). He did not abolish the law against adultery but went beyond it to prohibit lust (Matthew 5:27-28). He did not abolish the principle that punishment by the state should be limited to "an eye for an eye" but simply corrected the abuse of this legal principle of justice by forbidding personal vengeance (Matthew 5:38-39) which the Old Testament also forbids (Deuteronomy 32:35). And he did not negate any Old Testament law by telling us not to hate our enemy because this was a tradition of the scribes found nowhere in the Old Testament (Matthew 5:43-44).
Whenever Jesus wanted to justify his actions or establish a truth, he did it by quoting the Old Testament, not by denying it. Even when he said that loving God and loving our neighbor are the greatest commandments, he was quoting Old Testament commandments that were still in effect. The fact is, the law is still in effect and binding today. "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at one point is guilty of breaking all of it" (James 2:10).
Second, Jesus did come to fulfill the Old Testament. In Colossians 2:16-17 the apostle Paul says, "Therefore, do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however is found in Christ." So it is true that some things in the Old Testament no longer apply to us because Jesus has fulfilled them. But it is only ceremonial aspects of the law that were changed, not the moral aspects. And whatever was finally fulfilled by Jesus Christ was replaced by something better.
The religious festivals of the Old Testament pointed to Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection (1 Corinthians 5:7). The Old Testament priesthood was fulfilled in Jesus Christ, who is our High Priest and replaced by the priesthood of all believers (Hebrews 7:23-24). The Old Testament physical temple was fulled in Jesus Christ and replaced by the spiritual temple of the church. The Old Testament sacrificed were fulfilled once and for all by the death of Jesus Christ (Hebrews 7:27). There is no such thing as something in the Old Testament which was abolished without being substituted by something better in Jesus Christ.
Third, the whole law remains binding until the end of the world. Nowhere did Jesus or the apostles ever change or do away with any moral law or principle of the Old Testament. We have already seen that Jesus based his morals on the Old Testament. Furthermore, the New Testament emphasis on love is not instead of the law but the essence of it.
Paul wrote, "Let no debt remain outstanding except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. The commandments, 'Do not commit adultery,' 'Do not murder,' 'Do not steal,' 'Do not covet,' and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law" (Romans 13:8-10). Just because we are filled with Christian love does not mean that we can now sleep around, murder, steal, and covet. Indeed, our love makes us do what the Old Testament law commands.
The relationship of the Old Testament law to salvation
This brings us to the question of why Paul deprecates the law and good works (Roman 3:20, Galatians 24, Ephesians 2:8-10, etc.). Nowhere does Paul deny the validity of the moral laws for determining what is right and wrong and for guiding our everyday lives. Like Jesus, his arguments and teaching were always based on the Old Testament itself (Acts 17:2-3, Romans 1:17, Romans 3:10-18, etc.). What Paul denies is the validity of the view that obedience to God's laws can save us. As sinners, we are incapable of full obedience to the law and therefore cannot please God (Romans 3:20, Romans 8:6-8). So we must depend upon the grace of God in Jesus Christ to be forgiven (Romans 6:23).
But this was nothing new! Obeying God's laws did not save anyone in the Old Testament anymore than in the New Testament, and grace did not save anyone any less. No one in the Old Testament was forgiven or saved because they obeyed the law; the law simply made them aware of their sin just as in the New Testament (Romans 3:20, Romans 7:7-8, Galatians 3:24).
The Lord looked with favor or grace on Abel (Genesis 4:4) who made his offering in faith (Hebrews 11:4).
Noah found favor (grace) in the eyes of God (Genesis 6:8) because of his faith (Hebrews 11:7).
Abraham was saved by faith (Genesis 15:6) in the gospel of Jesus (Galatians 3:8) and is a pattern for our faith (Romans 4:1-10).
Moses found favor in the eyes of the Lord because God is gracious, not because Moses obeyed the law (Exodus 34:6-9, Psalm 103:7-8).
David depended on God's mercy for forgiveness (Psalm 51:1-5).
The point of all this is that the Old and New Testaments are equally valid and totally consistent in teaching what is right and wrong. Anyone reading the Old Testament will easily recognize the fact that it does not condemn violence or war when it is justified by biblical principles. Abraham rightly fought to rescue his nephew Lot from invaders (Genesis 14). God gave ground rules for conducting warfare (Deuteronomy 20). The book of Judges is basically a history of heroes and patriots who fought against the tyranny of invading armies and ungodly rulers. David was the greatest king of Israel as well as one of its best soldiers (1 and 2 Samuel). Nothing in the New Testament changes any of these facts.
1.1.3 Jesus Christ was not a pacifist
Of course, Christ's emphasis on love is sometimes perceived to imply that he was a pacifist who condemned all violence and war. But this is a misunderstanding.
A close look at the Bible will show that Jesus Christ was not a pacifist and will demonstrate that he approved of the justified use of deadly force.
Neither John the Baptist, nor Jesus, nor the apostles condemned soldiering.
"Then some soldiers asked him, 'And what should we do?' He replied, 'Don't exhort money and don't accuse people falsely — be content with your pay'" (Luke 3:14). John the Baptist did not tell soldiers that being soldiers was immoral per se, but simply condemned the abuse of their position as soldiers.
Jesus did not rebuke the centurion for being a soldier, but commended him for the faith that came from his understanding of authority in the military (Matthew 8:5-13; see also Acts 10:1-48).
Jesus Christ both permitted and commanded his followers to be armed.
"He said to them, 'But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one'" (Luke 22:36). Now that the apostles had learned the lesson of trusting in God (Luke 10:4), they were to be prepared to defend themselves as they travelled through dangerous areas to take the gospel to the whole world.
"Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest's servant, cutting off his right ear. Jesus commanded Peter, 'Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?'" (John 18:10-11). Notice that Jesus allowed Peter to have the sword both before and after this incident. The problem was not that defending someone is wrong; the problem was that it was inappropriate at this time since Jesus wanted to die for our sins (Mark 10:45).
"'Put your sword back in its place,' Jesus said to him, 'for all who draw the sword will die by the sword'" (Matthew 26:52). Again, Jesus did not necessarily condemn using the sword. He told Peter to put it back in its scabbard, not to get rid of it. What Jesus is saying is that anyone who fights risks his life in doing so. This is a matter of fact, not of ethics.
Jesus Christ used just force.
"Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of money changers and the benches of those selling doves" (Matthew 21:12).
"So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables" (John 2:15).
"When Jesus said, 'I am he,' they drew back and fell to the ground." He used his divine power against aggressors (John 18:6).
Jesus Christ would have been justified in defending himself.
On several occasions Jesus Christ evaded an angry crowd rather than giving in to their intent to kill him (Luke 4:28-30, John 8:58-59, John 10:35-39). It was not yet the time for him to sacrifice himself for the sins of many. When the time did come, and his disciples tried to defend him, Jesus said, "Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?'" (Matthew 26:53). Jesus was quite capable of taking care of himself if he wanted to be defended. And his statement that he could call on the Father did not only mean that he had the ability to defend himself, but that he was morally justified in doing so as well. He was under no inherent obligation to die, although he and the Father did plan for him to die.
Jesus Christ will someday use deadly force on a wide scale.
All through the Bible we read of the day when Jesus will return to set things straight. At his second coming he will throw the wicked into the fiery furnace (Matthew 13:41-43). He will separate the righteous from the wicked and send the latter into the eternal fire (Matthew 25:41). He will bring destruction upon unbelievers (1 Thessalonians 5:1-3, 2 Thessalonians 1:6-10). He will lay waste to the present heavens and the earth (2 Peter 3:10). And with justice he will judge and make war on the evildoers of the earth (Revelation 19:11-21). This all demonstrates that Jesus is not absolutely opposed to the deadly punishment of wrongdoers. Indeed, there will come a day when he brings it about on a universal scale. But for now, he is delaying his just wrath while giving mankind a chance to repent of their wicked deeds (2 Peter 3:9).
Jesus taught that force was a last resort.
Of course, it is true that violence is not always — indeed rarely — justified. "Jesus said, 'My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place'" (John 18:36). So Christians should not use force to establish or maintain the kingdom of God or impose their religious beliefs on others. But this does not mean that Christians should never use force. Jesus implies that if the situation was different, if his kingdom was an earthly kingdom, then force would be acceptable.
Jesus also said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" (Matthew 5:9) showering that our goal should always be to seek peaceful resolutions if at all possible (see also Romans 12:17-19). Later he said, "But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also" (Matthew 5:39). Slapping the right cheek was not a life-threatening attack, but a personal insult similar to spitting on someone. So Jesus was teaching that we should not resort to force when we face minor personal insults and mistreatment. But he was not condemning self-defense when our very lives are threatened as we have already seen.
Finally, Christ tells us, "But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven" (Matthew 5:44-45). How can we love our enemies and kill them at the same time? Clearly Jesus is saying we should harbor no hatred towards anyone. Our actions should never be motivated by hatred or vengeance but only by justice. Judges can and do justly sentence criminals to prison while having compassion on them. God can and does desire a sinner's repentance as he condemns him forever. So also it is possible and necessary for us to love our mortal enemies, to pray for their souls and seek to change their minds and behavior, even when we are forced to take up arms against them.
1.1.4 Principles of just war
As we have seen, Jesus Christ was not a pacifist and it is sometimes necessary to respond to evil with force. But why and when is force right and when is it wrong? Through the Bible there are several key principles to answer this question.
The right to life. All through the Bible it is assumed that individuals have the right to life. For instance, Exodus 20:13 says, "You shall not murder." The reasons we cannot murder is because God says so. But the reason he says so is because he has given us the right to live. This right to life implies the right to self-defense. If we should not be murdered, then we are justified in preventing someone from killing us. This is shown throughout the Bible.
Capital punishment. For various terrible crimes and sins, only death is a sufficient punishment. God himself instituted capital punishment. "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man" (Genesis 9:6). "Anyone who strikes a man and kill shim shall surely be put to death" (Exodus 21:12). Consistent with the principle of "an eye for an eye" (Exodus 23-25), only a murderer's death can satisfy the demands of justice for murder. Capital punishment is also the just penalty for despising authority (Deuteronomy 17:12), rebellion (Deuteronomy 21:21), and kidnapping (Deuteronomy 24:7). It makes no difference in principle whether an individual, or an army, or political leaders are guilty. If a man is guilty of a capital crime, he should die at the hands of an executioner. If any army is guilty of a wide-scale crime, they too should die, at the hands of an opposing army if necessary. If our leaders are corrupted to the extent of imposing tyranny upon the people, then they should be forcefully overthrown and replaced by a legitimate government.
Resisting tyranny. This idea of resisting tyranny is common in the Bible. Clearly we should not resort to force when mere possessions are at stake. High taxes and the like can be endured and do warrant taking lives. But when leaders are responsible for murder, deny civil liberties, and generally impose a draconian regime upon the people, then we should disobey, resist, and rise up to fight. In Exodus 1:15-22 the king of Egypt ordered that all newborn boys be killed. But the Hebrew midwives did right by disobeying and sparing the innocent babies. As we said previously, the book of Judges is full of accounts of leaders raised up by God for express purpose of delivering Israel from the hands of tyranny. Read about Ehud (Judges 3), Deborah (Judges 4), Gideon (Judges 6- 7), and Samson (Judges 13-16). These people are commended for their faith in the New Testament because they responded to God's calling to fight against tyranny (Hebrews 11:32-34).
Justice not revenge, collective not personal. Paul the apostle wrote, "Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody" (Romans 12:17). We must always be motivated to do what is right. "If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone" (Romans 12:18). By all means we must seek peaceful resolutions. "Do not take revenge my friends" (Romans 12:19). We are not to get even with an evildoer nor are we to take justice into our own hands. But it is not evil or vengeful for people to individually defend themselves or to collectively exact just punishment.
Obeying authority. Since the Bible is the inspired word of God, we must follow its commands and principles. We must take seriously the concept of just war taught explicitly in the Old Testament and implicitly in the New since the Bible is consistent in its moral precepts. Since Jesus was not a pacifist, we cannot say that christians renounce all armed conflict. And while force should be a last resort it is sometimes necessary for self-defense and to resist tyranny.
This leads us to the all important idea of authority. Who is in charge. What must we obey? When is resistance justified? "Then Jesus came to them and said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me'" (Matthew 28:18). All legitimate authority rests in the Lord Jesus Christ. All earthly authority is therefore derived and limited authority. Christ gives parents the authority to raise children according to his principles (Ephesians 6:1-4). But we have no authority to abuse our children or lead them astray. He gives ordained leaders of the church authority within the church, but they are accountable to Christ (Hebrews 13:17). They also have no authority to abuse or lead astray Christians. Likewise, he gives authority to governments to maintain law and order, not to abuse citizens or to perpetrate evil.
Consider Romans 13:1-5 which is perhaps the most important biblical passage about the authority of governments. "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God" (Romans 13:1). In America, the highest governing authority is the Constitution, not elected officials who are sworn to uphold and defend it.
"Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves" (Romans 13:2). Violating Constitutional liberties is rebelling against God, whether it is done by a criminal or the politicians. Thus,
When elected officials break their oath to uphold the Constitution, it is not the patriotic citizen who is in rebellion, but the governing official!
"For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you" (Romans 13:3). If you do what is Constitutionally right by forming a militia and the government accuses you of wrongdoing, then in fact they have lost all authority because they have turned away from the very thing which legitimizes them.
"For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, and agent of wrath to bring punishment to the wrongdoer" (Romans 13:4). God intends the government to do you good by maintaining law, order, and justice. When the government systematically punishes the upright citizen and commends wrongdoing, it is no longer serving God's purpose.
"Therefore , it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience" (Romans 13:5). Jesus Christ is the ultimate authority and the Constitution is the real governing authority. If we are submitted to Jesus Christ and committed to Constitutional liberties, then our conscience demands the resistance of unconstitutional authority which is no authority at all.

Where are the Men?

Within the last year the question of where the men are has come up more and more. Why aren’t men more active in ministry? How come men don’t take their faith more seriously? George Orwell said, the ordinary man is passive….Against major events he is as helpless as against the elements. So far from endeavoring to influence the future, he simply lies down and lets things happen to him. What a tragedy in which men have been put in today’s society! I believe that men that see that other men have an “identity” in the secular world, they don’t want to have the Christian label on them.
So much emphasis has been put on manners and appearances, that shame is big in the church. This has help keep men in line. What we don’t realize, is that their identity is being squashed, their will is being broken, and that the lives of those who love and depend upon them are being diminished as well. But, the truth is, that everyone loses when men are not allow to be whom God made them to be. Can you imagine what would happen if Jesus appeared at your church next Sunday and begin to say, “You hypocrites!” “White-washed tombs.” “You fools!” “Dull people.” And “a brood of vipers fit for hell!” We would probably say to Him, “If you don’t have anything nice to say, Jesus, don’t say it at all.” What I am saying, is that men (Christian) are expected to follow a nonexistent Jesus, which hinders and frustrates those of us who possess a vital masculine nature but are told no to activate it.
Bill Hybels says that passive Christians repel non-Christian from the faith; “I’ve learned through the years that seekers are not impressed with spinelessness…Most of the time, seekers…respect and admire Christians who aren’t afraid to take a stand…
Let me say it once more: Seekers have little respect for weak Christians. Deep down they’re looking for somebody – anybody – to step up and proclaim the truth and then to live it boldly
Today we teach men that they should not stand up for themselves and for others. We have told them that good Christians don’t do conflicts! Think about it guys: Wouldn’t it be great to view conflict as an event you could enter into with moderation, tact, and wisdom, the way you’ve seen other men embrace it? To be freed from the shackles of niceness, a fearful vice that takes on the deceptive posture of virtue, an idol that distances you from God and from others? I am not saying that we stop being nice personas, but that we need to put our priorities into prospective, and allow God to use us according to how He has made us. Then marriages would be saved, our culture war would gain new and powerful members, children would get a dad to admire, missions would be launched, and God’s redemptive plan would transform yet another dark realm of this messed-up world.
Many men are often uncertain about what the next step in their Christian life ought to be after salvation. We need to help eliminate the guesswork for them. We need to give to our ministry a fresh new look that would attract other to be part of it, teaching them how to grow closer in their faith to their Savior. A ministry packed full of encouragement and practical insights, which will help unlock the Christian life. Our theme for the next two year, “Back to basic” will give some insights to what needs to take form in our men’s ministries, to get back on track with the will of our God and Savoir.

The Reptilian Alien Agenda!
I have spoken to many people, lately, who feel it is time for those of us, who have experienced, encounters with Off World Beings, or Space Aliens, to come forward, and tell what we have seen. I know, I know, you're all laughing! Well, to those serious investigators, it's no laughing matter! Come on people, will these ships have to land in your back yard before you understand that the Earth is being invaded by other Life Forms? Report after report, goes on daily. Is it a mass hallucination? Are UFO's all Stealth Bombers, Plays of Light, Fairies in the Fields? What of the thousands of book written about this subject? Are all these people simply making it up?

I have, for some time now, been receiving visions, of the Reptile like Beings, spoken about by David Icke, just to mention one well known author. I have now written to Di of Prep 200 yahoo group, and told some of what I know. I will post what I have written, as follows;

Some of the Reptile Beings, are not even sure that what they do is, a
negative factor in human development. From what I have seen, these Aliens have a
political agenda, just as many in powerful positions do, on Earth. Many times when
I am 'seeing' my visions, I feel that the scene is actually happening, as I
watch. I know that there are ships, at times, if not most of the time, 'Parked'
within viewing range of Earth. These ships are enormous and are nearly like
Worlds, unto themselves. Whole generations live upon these ships. I suspect
from what I have learned, that there are now many humans on board these same
ships, already! These are the same humans that are being told, that they cannot go
back to Earth for 100 years. The humans, are living in a separate community.
I know the humans have a so called diplomatic representative, that the Aliens
were in contact with for many years before, this man came to live upon the
huge ship. The Reptiles placed him as a representative, to show good faith for
our so called, plight, but he is simply as manipulated, as all the other humans.
Only a few of the humans know what is truly going on in the labs. The Aliens
are also very interested in Psychic Humans, and a special blood type. I get
the feeling it has something to do with the Negative RH factor. I'm not sure.

When the initial 'Pick Up' or 'Rescue' begins fully, for the Aliens, the
humans will be asked to step into a specific area, in order to be transported
to the ships. At first the Scientists and those who have already been in
contact with the Aliens, will be approached, and uploaded. Before transport, the
aliens will have us take some sort of medication, I think in pill form but
possible something else. This will 'Mark' the humans, as they arrive upon the ships,
as 'Tame.' They will clearly be able to 'screen' any human who has taken this
substance, before transport. After arrival upon these ships, each human will
be asked to have an examination. It will be a sort of assembly line. The
Aliens will tell us it is to protect them and us, from any contagion. Some humans
will be asked to use a machine that looks sort of like a video game. This will
test our Psychic abilities, and special talents. They do wish to experiment
upon those who are Psychic, so that they may better understand how we developed,
or so it seems to me. The 'Lesser' humans, or those they feel are slowly
developed in intelligence or capabilities, will be used in other experiments,
hidden from view, never to be seen again.
Next, the humans are assigned living quarters, in a separate community, from
the Reptiles. There will be customary once a month, diplomatic meeting, with
the human diplomat, but this is laughable, in the higher Reptile circles, as it
is just a farce.

Most of the aliens that work with humans, try to keep the human looking
'shield,' upon their forms, as this helps to calm the humans, and it makes the
aliens look less threatening. When the aliens speak to each other and they do not
wish the Humans to understand what they are saying, they break into the
'clicking like communication' that is more natural for them. Some of the Aliens, use
telepathy, I feel, but many of these types, are simply incapable of doing so.
These same Reptile like Beings, eat most Live food.

reptilian humanoid
Some of the information in this article or section has not been verified and might not be reliable. It should be checked for inaccuracies and modified as needed, citing sources.
Reptoids are often reported wearing hoods
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Reptoids are often reported wearing hoods
Reptilian humanoids are intelligent, supernatural, or highly developed reptile-like humanoids in mythology, popular fiction, and speculative fringe theories. They also appear in some conspiracy theories, most notably those of David Icke, and in science fiction. Some authors refer to them as reptoids, dinosauroids or lizardmen.

Similarly to the other cryptids, no one has produced proof of the existence of reptilian humanoids, and allegations of their existence can at best be referred to as cryptozoology or pseudoscience.
Mythological references to reptilian humanoids

Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings, and some have described reptilian humanoids. Common in numerous mythologies are tales of reptilian creatures (usually not humanoid) who are hostile to human beings. Also rather common are the myths of "Serpents of Wisdom" who enlightened humanity before the dawn of civilization; but it has been noted by mythologists that here "serpent" may only have been used to symbolize strangeness.
The Americas

The Mayan god Gucumatz was described as a "serpent of wisdom" who enlightened humankind, as was his Aztec counterpart Quetzalcoatl.

The Hopi refer to a race of reptilians called the Sheti, or "Snake-Brothers", who live underground. The Cherokee and other Native American peoples also refer to reptilian races.

In pre-columbian mythology from Colombia, Bachue (the primordial woman) transformed into a big snake. She is also sometimes called the "Celestial Snake" (Serpiente Celestial).
Europe

Cecrops, the legendary first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake. The ancient Titans and Gigantes were sometimes depicted as winged man-like beings with serpents instead of legs, for example on a fresco on a temple in Pergamum. In these images from Pergamum, some of which depict the gigantomachy, one sees the giant Klyteios with huge serpents in place of legs.[1]

Boreas (Aquilon to the Romans) was the Greek god of the cold north wind, described by Pausanias as a winged man with serpents for legs.[2]

The European dragon dates back to ancient depictions on various archaeological artifacts. An early instance in literature was the dragon that guarded the Golden Fleece in the Voyage of the Argonauts. In the Middle Ages, tales of dragons seem to have become even more common. The dragon in Europe, as a rule, was not conceived as having a humanoid form, and would not qualify as an instance of a reptilian humanoid unless explicitly described as humanoid.

In the middle ages down to modern times, the Devil was often conceived as a humanoid with reptilian characteristics, as were demons in general. The serpent from the Garden of Eden, associated by Christians with Satan, is often portrayed in Western art as a humanoid (woman) with a snake's tail, and sometimes lizard-like feet, as in a detail from Bosch's Last Judgement.[3]
India

In Indian scriptures and legends the Naga (Devnagri: नाग) are reptilian beings said to live underground and interact with human beings on the surface. In some versions, these beings were said to have once lived on a continent in the Pacific Ocean that sank beneath the waves. Indian texts also refer to a reptilian race called the "Sarpa" (Devnagri: सर्प). The Syrictæ (Greek : Skiritai, Latin: Sciritae) of India were a tribe of men with snake-like nostrils in place of noses and bandy serpentine legs.
East Asia

The Chinese, Korean and Japanese speak throughout their history of Lóng (Yong in Korean) or dragons, conceived of in both physical and non-physical forms, but rarely depicted in humanoid form, though they may assume a non-reptilian human form.[4] The Japanese have tales of Kappa, a basically reptilian humanoid.

In China, Korea and Japan, underwater realms where the Dragon Kings and their descendants live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of dragons. This lineage was often claimed by Asian Emperors, who were believed to be able to change from human to dragon form at will, much like the modern concept of shape-shifting reptilians. It should be noted, however, that the dragon is seen as good rather than evil in Eastern tradition.[5]
Middle East

In the Middle East, reptilian beings ranging from certain Jinn to dragons and serpent-men have been spoken of since ancient times. In one of the apocryphal books purporting to be the lost Book of Jasher, a serpent race is described.
Africa

In Africa, the shamans claim to bear extensive esoteric knowledge of a race of reptilians called the Chitahuri, whom they say control the Earth. They also claim to have accounts of a reptilian race who created blacks and used them to work their gold mines, extremely similar to the accounts allegedly described in the Sumerian tablets.

The ancient Egyptian god Sobek was portrayed as a man with the head of a crocodile.
Modern claims

Even in modern times, some claim to have encountered reptilian humanoids. In many of these cases, a UFO is part of the encounter; alien abduction narratives sometimes allege contact with reptilian creatures.

Ashland, Nebraska police officer Herbert Schirmer on December 3, 1967 claims to have been taken aboard a UFO that appeared just outside of Ashland, where he encountered humanoid beings, 4 feet 6 inches to 5 feet tall, who wore close-fitting silvery gray uniforms, boots and gloves. Their heads were thin, and longer than a human head. The skin on their faces was grey-white, the nose flat, the mouth merely a slit which did not move, even when they spoke. Their eyes were slightly slanted. While not especially reptilian, the beings bore a "winged serpent" emblem on the left side of their chest. Schirmer alleged that the beings are from another galaxy, and have bases on earth. [6]

Lizard men have allegedly been seen in India, Superstition Mountains (Arizona), "Dulce Base" (New Mexico), and Mount Shasta (California). In addition, lizardmen-human hybrids carrying staves have been spotted in India and Mount Shasta.

Inspired by his highly publicized, multiple witness UFO contact which took place in Seattle Washington, September 5th 1987 at 11:35 p.m.,[citation needed] Purple Crow created COHRA, the Council On Human-Reptilian Allegiance (founded in 1987 when he first began public speaking about his ongoing encounters), where he and others present many reptoid contact cases that have taken place throughout history as evidence that not all aliens come from distant worlds or are anything new to the planet Earth. Purple works with many other UFO investigators and exopolitical researchers worldwide [citation needed] in presenting his case for peace between a species that he claims already lives amongst us. He states that the human species is a hybrid race with mixed blood from assorted “ancient gods”, many of which are recorded as reptilian in appearance (Such as reported in the Ancient Sumerian texts, the Indian vedas, the Mexican Acambaro figurines, the Dead sea scrolls, etc). Purple is of the Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English (WISE) Celtic/Druid lineage. He claims to have physical "hybrid scales" (the "badge of the ancient priests") somewhere on his body, which he only shows his most trusted friends. Purple has been quoted by David Icke in the book Children of the Matrix regarding the diverse attitudes of different species and groups of aliens, whether Reptilian in appearance or otherwise. COHRA is his attempt to prepare the population for impending global contact, focusing on reptilian related contact encounters inspired by his own hybrid bloodline and ongoing contacts.

Riley Martin, author of The Coming of Tan and frequent guest of Howard Stern and Coast to Coast AM, claims personal knowledge of Targzissians, a malevolent race of reptilians who manage to coexist with six other types of aliens on a mother ship near Saturn.[7]

According to an interview with David Icke, [8] Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were Reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift. David Icke and others have claimed that U.S. President George W. Bush and his family are part of this same bloodline. (Icke, 2004)

John Rhodes was the first person to seriously investigate and publically present other people's claims of reptilian-humanoid contact. He established the Reptoids.com Research Center in 1997 to collect, review and present evidence of reptoid activity. Rhodes contends that reptoids are descendants of the dinosaurs and are biological byproducts of Earth evolution. He also reports that conspiracy advocates demonize reptoids because they are an 'easy' sell to an audience that has been conditioned by religious authorities to react negatively to a reptile image.

David Icke claims that people see reptilian humanoids and that reptilian species are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at manipulation and control of humanity. According to Icke, one type of reptilian entity that people see during alleged encounters resembles dinosauroids. Icke theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. Like most conspiracy theories, falsification of Icke's hypotheses is nearly impossible, but Icke continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.

Cathy O'Brien, who claims to be a victim of CIA MKULTRA mind-control, says in her book "trance-formation of America" (with Mark Phillips) that she witnessed (among others) George Bush physically shapeshift into a Reptilian alien being. She rationalised this as potentially being a holographic illusion as part of her mind control programming.

Paul Shockley, a self-professed psychic, also speaks of malevolent reptilian beings. However, he explains that he does not believe that all reptilians are malevolent, and that there are benevolent members of this species as well.

Patrick Bellringer and other supporters of NESARA also claim that George Bush is a reptilian. In this scenario, the announcement and implementation of NESARA (a law passed in secret) will ultimately end reptilian control over the planet Earth.

Reptilian humanoid aliens figured prominently in the 2003 murder trial of Linda Henning who was eventually convicted of murdering her boyfriends ex-wife, Girly Chew Hossencofft. The trial was covered by Court TV, providing national exposure to the consipracy theories involving such creatures. Henning allegedly believed or was told by co-conspirator Diazien Hossencofft that Girly's killing would serve as good practice for the upcoming showdown with the reptilians. Familiar themes of the Bush Family reptilian connection surfaced in evidence seized in connection with the trial. Both Henning and Hossencofft are serving life sentences.

Claims about the Anunnaki
Disputed Science:
Reptilian humanoids

Disciplines:

* Biology

Core Tenets:

* Certain extraterrestrial intelligent beings, reptilian and humanoid in appearance, have visited (or are currently visiting) the Earth and have exerted (or are currently exerting) a profound effect on the development of human civilization.

Year Proposed: * unknown

Original Proponents:

* Zecharia Sitchin

Current Proponents:

* David Icke

Zecharia Sitchin, an amateur Assyriologist, claims to have translated Sumerian tablets referring to an alien race which created a race of humans to work as slaves in their mines in Africa. This race is called the Anunnaki (or Abbennakki), and it is specifically stated that the "Black-headed" people of Sumeria were created by these beings by mingling the "life-essences" of "man and beast", often depicting an ape-like creature as the "beast". The "Black-headed people" were considered slaves in the Sumerian caste hierarchy. The Sumerian Tablets refer to the creation of the Black-headed people in the geographical area called 'AB.ZU.', which is said to correspond to West Africa.

The royalty was said to be a combination between "Dragons" and humans, or to be direct descendants of the Sun God, Shamhash. Contrary to the claims of David Icke, the Draconian Sun-God aspect of the royalty does not correspond to the Anunnaki, but to a different set of gods. Anunnaki comprised only 23 gods in the Sumerian pantheon, including Enlil (lord of agriculture) and Enki (lord of life). Other gods were not Anunnaki at all, but were personifications of the Sun, or what were described as 'Sir', or Dragons, in Babylonian. This word, 'Sir', also apparently meant 'great serpent', and is related to the Sanskrit word 'Sarpa', which was also used to describe great "Dragon-Gods" who ruled over, and created, the original Dravidian culture.

Sitchin also suggests that the Annunaki probably still exist in some form or another, with some degree of influence over humanity. These beings are speculated to be either amphibious, reptilian, or quasi-reptilian, from ancient description.

According to Arizona Wilder, who claims to be a former mind-controlled subject of MK-Ultra (much like Cathy O'Brien), Zecharia Sitchin is in league with the reptilians as a disinformation agent. She claims to have seen him with other shape-shifting reptilians at many high level functions attended by the world's "elite".

Laurence Gardner, historian and holder of many other titles (the validity of which have been debated), claims that a "Dragon Bloodline", a "Holy Graal", was created in ancient Sumeria when reptilian aliens called "Anunnakki" descended upon the region and created a royal bloodline through genetic engineering.

Stewart Swerdlow, a self-professed mentalist, claims to possess extensive knowledge of alien intervention in Earth-human society, and describes in detail the activities of a Reptilian race called the Draco, originating in the Draco star system. He also mentions a more benevolent Reptilian race called the Abbennakki, which, he says, created the Black race in Africa. He claims that this is supported by ancient Sumerian tablets, as well as the histories of the indigenous peoples of Africa, such as the Zulu, as well as physical evidence such as ancient mines which have been discovered by the Anglo American Corporation, dating to 60,000 years B.C.
Popular writings about reptilian humanoids

Philip K. Dick, a science fiction writer, in his book, VALIS, wrote about contact with three-eyed amphibious beings from Sirius and their connection to the Soviets and the Illuminati. Dick claimed to have connected these creatures to the Nommo, a race of amphibious deities worshipped by the Dogon tribe of Mali. It is a subject of some debate as to whether or not Dick was suffering from temporal lobe epilepsy. His wife allegedly claimed that he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at one point in his life. It has been theorised that his reptilian beliefs were due to a brain disorder, the ingestion of painkillers, or his fondness for methamphetamine and entheogens.

Tom Robbins also included the reptilian theory in his fictonal novel Half Asleep in Frog Pajamas. Incredibile historical ties and an amazing amount of backstory lead the reader through the entire gambit of reptilian lore, including the Dogon tribe, the Nommo, the being or beings known as Oannes, and the actual biological vestiges of fingers in dolphin fins. While it is unclear as to the personal beliefs of the author, such a mountain of real-world data on the subject of reptilian (or amphibian, in this case) alien interlopers makes one wonder if the book is meant to be a manifesto sotto voce.

Robert Anton Wilson writes about the Illuminati in the Illuminatus trilogy and other books. The book Cosmic Trigger I: Final Secret of the Illuminati describes his drug-induced experiences with three-eyed beings from Sirius. He is known for stating various forms of conspiracy theory (he also claims to be a high-level initiate of Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis).

Timothy Leary also claimed to have contact with three-eyed beings from Sirius.

Timothy Leary, Robert Anton Wilson and Philip K. Dick all have called themselves Pythagoreans.

In the science fiction television series V, Earth was taken over by reptilian aliens who wear artificial skins to pass as humans.

The popular Marvel comic The Ultimates, written by Mark Millar, used a conspiracy of shapeshifting alien reptiles as the primary villains of the 'Homeland Security' arc (issues #7-13). Millar admits this idea was based on the beliefs of David Icke.

Robert Howard, popularly known for his Conan stories, wrote a short story The Shadow Kingdom, which featured shape changing reptilian organisms. They could and did pass as hominids in the imaginary kingdom of Valusia. This was necessitated by the bigoted Valusians discrimination against Reptilian-Valusians. This story was published in Weird Tales, August 1929, and republished in the collection King Kull, 1967 by Lancer Books.
Conspiracy theories

There are many conspiracy theories centered around, or at least involving, extraterrestrials of reptilian lineage. Many of these posit that the so-called Greys are in fact reptiles, and should be categorized as "Reptoids".

David Icke claims, based on his exploration of genealogical connections to European royalty, that many presidents of the United States have been reptilian humanoids. In his view, United States foreign policy after September 11 is the product of a reptilian conspiracy to enslave humanity, with George W. Bush as its key player. (See also Bush family conspiracy theory.) Some have also claimed that Reptoids are capable of shape-shifting.

Some conspiracy theorists claim to have worked out a "dichotomy of axes" involved in hypothetical interplanetary and intergalactic conflict, and place the reptilians in an evil "Draconian" "axis", while humans are one of the species that belongs in an opposing "Evadamic" "axis". Several other entities and parties have been placed into this conspiracy theory, with some players who switch allegiances between Draconian and Evadamic.

A subterranean Nazi-friendly super race is sometimes associated with accounts of reptilian humanoids, and also with the telekinetic super race depicted in Vril: The Power of the Coming Race.
Political references to reptilians

An article appeared in the Chicago Tribune on March 1, 1995, regarding an event in which George Bushnell, head of the American Bar Association, called the Republicans "reptilian bastards". Quote from the article: "The atmosphere in the litigation debate is getting as poisonous as the atmosphere in, well, litigation itself. Eighty-two House members have now called on George Bushnell, Jr., president of the 370,000-lawyer American Bar Association, to resign after he described the Republican leadership of Congress as "those reptilian bastards."[9] While there is no evidence that Bushnell used the term "reptilian" to mean anything other than "reptile-like", this quote is significant in light of the conspiracy theories regarding reptilians in government. (Regular contributors to the site Little Green Footballs sometimes refer to themselves as "lizardoid minions", perhaps as a counter to the pejorative tone of Bushnell's article.)

On September 12, 2003, during the provincial election campaign in Ontario, Canada, a press release disseminated by the Ontario Progressive Conservative Party contained a line at the end that referred to rival Ontario Liberal Party leader Dalton McGuinty as an evil reptilian kitten-eater from another planet. Presumably, the release was not intended seriously, but did no good for the Conservative party campaign.
See also

* Abduction phenomenon
* Area 51
* Bird people
* COHRA
* Dulce Base
* Extraterrestrial life in culture
* Greys
* David Icke
* Bob Lazar
* Lizardfolk (Dungeons & Dragons)
* Lizard Man of Scape Ore Swamp
* Lizardmen (Warhammer)
* Nazi mysticism
* Reptilian humanoids in fiction
* Reptilian Aliens a Book of Memes
* Serpent seed
* Sherry Shriner
* Erik Sprague
* UFO
* V (TV series)
* UFO Casebook

intelligent dinosaurs
dinosauroid
"Dinosauroid." Sculpture by Dale Russell and Ron Seguin, 1982, Canadian Museum of Nature, Ottawa, Canada
Troodon
Troodon (Stenonychosaurus unequalis)
What would have happened if the asteroid that supposedly hit the Earth at the end of the Cretaceous period (see Cretaceous-Tertiary Boundary), 65 million years ago, had missed? One possibility is that the dinosaurs would not have become extinct, advanced mammals would subsequently not have appeared, and some of the descendants of dinosaurs might have evolved to become intelligent in our place. It's clear that some of the dinosaurs were getting smarter at the time the asteroid hit the Yucatan and handed the gauntlet to the mammals (fortunately for us). One of the brainiest dinosaurs we know about at the
end of the Cretaceous was Troodon (a.k.a. Stenonychosaurus inequalis) a 1.2-m-tall, 70-kg carnivorous dinosaur with perhaps the intelligence of an opossum. What if Troodon had survived and continued to evolve and get brainier? In the early 1980s, paleontologist Dale Russell, curator of vertebrate fossils at the National Museums of Canada, in Ottowa, explored this possibility;1 for more on Russell go here (DinoData). Had the dinosaurs survived, argued Russell, and a species like Troodon grown smarter, it would eventually have needed to stand upright to balance its heavy head. A shoulder structure would have evolved to allow the "dinosauroid" to throw objects. Projecting how other characteristics of this species might have developed he came up with a model of a large-brained, reptilian biped with enormous eyes, three-fingered hands, an absence of external genitalia (typical of reptiles), and a navel (since a placenta is found in some modern reptiles and may have been needed to enable the birth of young with big brain cases).

reconstruction of Stenonychosaurus
A reconstruction of Stenonychosaurus
Was Troodon the last word on dinosaur intelligence or are there fossils of even smarter species waiting to be found? Visit this website for a cogently argued case that some dinosaurs may have got to be really brainy – to the point of hominid intelligence. We've no evidence for this, of course, but it isn't such an outrageous hypothesis. At least, it's an interesting point when thinking about alternative evolutionary scenarios. The dinosaurs were around for a very long time – from about 225 to 65 million years ago. Consider how far mammals have progressed since the end of the Cretaceous (a period less than half as long): from creeping around in trees to launching Jupiter probes! Consider how rapidly humanoid intelligence has advanced in the past 3 million years.
The Voths from Star Trek Voyager
The Voths
Dinosaurs certainly had time to grow big brains and even develop a culture and civilization. Did they? Probably not, but it isn't out of the question. After all, what clues will be left to our own civilization and technology after 65 million years of erosion and earth movements? In the Star Trek Voyager episode "Distant Origin", a sentient race of space-faring dinosaurs on the far side of the Galaxy discover they may have originated on Earth (see picture at lower right from this show). Also in science fiction, Harry Harrison explored the consequences of saurian intelligence in his West of Eden series.
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The Cryptid Zoo: Reptilian Bipeds (or Reptoids)

Are lizard men too weird for cryptozoology? Almost. Humanoids with animal characteristics, sometimes called manimals, are reported quite frequently in the literature of cryptozoology and anomalous phenomena. The most famous of these is Bigfoot, who appears to be somewhere between ape and man. The most heavily studied humanoids in cryptozoology all look like cousins of Bigfoot. In other words, they seem like they could be undiscovered primates, or perhaps even primitive humans.

But not every legendary humanoid is as normal as Bigfoot. Reptile people are one of the weirder varieties. Although far less common than Bigfoot sightings, these reptilian manimals have still caught the interest of investigators. They are often linked with both ancient legends of dragons and the modern alien abduction fad. These reptile people are generally called reptilian bipeds, reptilians, or reptoids.

Whenever these beings are interpreted as aliens, demons or shapeshifters, they tend to be of less interest to cryptozoologists. When they are interpreted as dragons or earthly animals of some sort, they become slightly more interesting to cryptozoologists. In either case, there is not a great deal of interest in reptoids in the mainstream cryptozoology community. Most of the stuff being written about reptoids comes from fringe cryptozoologists, UFO researchers and paranormal investigators.

Still, despite the sheer weirdness of reptoids, or maybe because of it, there are quite a lot of sightings. The sheer volume of eyewitness reports has sometimes caused mainstream cryptozoologists to look into the problem, trying to find an explanation. Just like the case with hairy humanoids, reptilian humanoids can boast of a long pedigree in folklore and mythology in addition to the modern sightings. Widespread Asian lore tells of Nagas, royal snake people. Japanese lore tells about a type of humanoid combining reptile and primate anatomy, called the kappa. And the list can go on seemingly forever. Dragon people, snake people and lizard people can be found in just about every culture's mythology, if you dig deep enough.

Many of these legends describe reptilian humanoids as living underground or having a strong connection to the water, as do some modern reports. This has led some cryptozoologists to classify reptoids with mermaids and mermen, sometimes using the aquatic ape theory. Other theories describe reptoids as intelligent descendants of the dinosaurs. This intelligent dinosauroid theory is often combined with other highly fringe ideas, suggesting that human history has been guided all along by quasi-sinister reptilian overlords who genetically engineered humans.

In fact, the idea that reptoids secretly rule the world is widespread, well outside the intelligent dinosauroid theory or anything else that can pass as normal cryptozoology. Paranormal investigators who believe in reptoids tend to paint them as the original demons, scarier than any religious mythology. These demons are sometimes defined in quasi-religious, quasi-supernatural terms, often as inhabitants of an alternate dimension of reality.

In short, it is possible to start the study of reptoids well within the confines of cryptozoology, but it is hard to keep reptoids there. Reptoids are just a bit too fringe, even for a scientific disipline like cryptozoology that is often considered to be part of fringe science.

You can find out more about Reptilian Bipeds from the following sources:

Blackman, W. Haden. The Field Guide to North American Monsters. New York: Three Rivers Press, 1998. Page 178

Boulay, R. A. Flying Serpents and Dragons : The Story of Mankind's Reptilian Past.

Clark, Jerome. Unexplained!. Detroit: Visible Ink Press, 1999. Pages 283, 497-500

Coleman, Loren. Mysterious America: The Revised Edition. New York: Paraview Press, 2001. Pages 280-282

Commander X. Reality of the Serpent Race and the Subterranean Origin of UFOs

Godfrey, Linda S., Hendricks, Richard D., Moran, Mark, ed. & Sceurman, Mark, ed. Weird Wisconsin: Your Travel Guide to Wisconsin's Local Legends and Best Kept Secrets. New York: Sterling, 2005. Page 106

Icke, David. Children of the Matrix

Icke, David. The Reptilian Agenda Documentary.

Icke, David. The Reptilian Agenda E-zine

Keel, John A. The Complete Guide to Mysterious Beings. New York: Doubleday, 1994. Page 145

Moran, Mark & Sceurman, Mark. Weird N.J.: Your Travel Guide to New Jersey's Local Legends and Best Kept Secrets. New York: Barnes & Noble, 2004. Page 110

Newton, Michael. Encyclopedia of Cryptozoology: A Global Guide to Hidden Animals and Their Pursuers. Jefferson, North Carolina: McFarland & Company, 2005. Pages 199, 225, 264, 292, 455

Reptilian Links

Reptilian Resource Center

Reptoids Research Center Communications Site

Saurian Humanoids FAQ

Steiger, Brad. Out of the Dark: The Complete Guide to Beings from Beyond. New York: Kensington Books, 2001. Pages 256-261

Sherry Shriner has been researching the alien agenda and the NWO for some time now. Sherry has appeared as a guest on the popular paranormal/conspiracy related radio shows the Jeff Rense show and The Edge AM. She also hosts her own radio show on the Reality Radio Network. In addition, Sherry has written two books called Bible Codes Revealed: The Coming UFO Invasion and Aliens on the Internet. Her websites include
http://www.sherryshriner.com/, http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/, http://www.sherrytalkradio.com/, http://www.hiddencodes.com/, http://sherryshriner.blogspot.com/, http://www.omegansareliars.com/, http://www.tearingdownstrongholds.com/, http://www.rahabisreturning.com/, http://www.lastdaysprophecies.com/, http://www.justgivemethetruth.com/, http://www.orgoneblasters.com/, http://www.aliensinthenews.com/, http://www.backtoyahweh.com/, http://www.crystalcityfraud.com/, http://www.sherryaudios.com/,
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Zacherle Hoag Interview with Sherry Shriner: Alien Agenda and the New World Order

Q: First what is your basic theory as to what is
going on in the world right now?

A. There are two different civilizations fighting it out for world domination and control of the earth. The humans and the aliens. The humans establishing the New World Order are divided themselves into various lesser factions within the families of this alien group called the Illuminati. It is the Illuminati itself, run and overseen by a Council of Aliens who pull the strings of these alien-hybrid families and have them establishing and implementing this political agenda called the New World Order. When the aliens are through having their hybrid children pave the way for them through this NWO they will ascend to earth and take over rule for themselves through their leader, whom we call the Antichrist.

Q: What are the different types of alien races that you have uncovered in your research?

A. There are approximately 57 different races that have been identified and there could be more. However there are really just two main groups of them of which all of these races fall into. The Enki and the Enlil. Regardless of what disinformation is given on these two groups, it breaks down to this: The Enki are all of the fallen angels who rebelled with Lucifer and were cast out of heaven. Part of their judgment for doing so was that they lost their angelic looks. That's why there's so many various ugly alien races, because they lost their angelic looks. The non-human looking alien races are the Enki. The Enlil are the Watchers who left heaven and came to earth to procreate with human women (Gen. 6:4). They fell before the flood and after. The Watchers never lost their angelic looks and look humanoid, in other words like humans. The Enlil are very tall with some being over 9 feet tall. The average is probably 7 feet. The children they had with human women were born giants, such as Goliath who was 9 and a half feet tall. Common names for the Enlil today are the Annunaki, Nephilim, Nordics, etc.

Q: Who are the Annunaki?
A. The Annunaki from ancient Sumerian times are known as "those who from heaven came to earth." They lie about who they are and proclaim they are our ancestors who created us and then left planet Earth and that they are now returning to help us clean up the mess we've made of our environment. The Bible says they are the angels who rebelled and left heaven to procreate with human women producing giants as children. The ancient prophet Enoch details them very well in his book, Enoch, in chapter 10. The mixing and contamination of human DNA with fallen angels was so dominant that there were only 8 people left with pure human DNA so the Lord destroyed the world with a flood. Even after the flood the fall of angels from heaven continued and many cities were built by these giant offspring. Eventually, the Israelites led by Joshua and Caleb destroyed these cities and ended the domination of giants as the Israelites conquered the land "flowing with milk and honey" for themselves after their exodus from Egypt.

Q: There is a lot of talk about a treaty that the government made with aliens. What exactly is the story there?
A. There is evidence that indicates President Eisenhower met with a group of tall Grey aliens at Edwards Air Force base in 1954 in which a formal treaty was signed between the United States Government and this alien nation. Since then many additional treaties have been signed with them including the stipulation that our government would deny the existence of aliens and UFOs in our air space. Within these treaties it is agreed that alien technology would be given to our government in exchange for silence and denial while these same aliens slaughter our animals and abduct American citizens for breeding, experiments, and to be eaten for food.

Q: How does alien/human hybriding tie in to all of this?
A. The aliens allegedly lied to our government claiming their race was dying and they only needed a limited number of humans (Americans) to experiment on to be able to help them keep their own race alive. In reality, they have abducted hundreds of thousands of citizens using them for breeding, cross-breeding, DNA contamination, and food. The aliens eat humans. At the same time they have been able to successfully cross-breed alien genes with human genes creating their own hybrid race that we refer to as Star children or Indigo children. Zechariah Sitchin, Dr. Richard Boylan and others will spread disinformation to keep the real truth from being told as to what these children really are and where they are really from. Just as they do about the aliens themselves.

Q: How do aliens possess human bodies?
A. Aliens can possess human bodies through a changing of human DNA. This is why so much information has come out in regards to rituals and blood drinking. This changes regular human DNA into a more palatable form for aliens to be able to walk in and possess a human body. Human DNA can also be changed, or tweaked through strict vegetarian dieting or even natural medicines that change amino-based DNA into a more crystalline DNA. I don't understand all the technicalities of how they do it, but this is a general understanding of it. One of the more obvious characteristics of an alien-possessed human is the black soul-less eyes, or eyes that don't reflect light off their pupils.

Q: What is Planet X and how does it figure into things?
A. Planet X is an ancient planet formerly called Rahab that was cast out of our solar system. Rahab was the former seat and home of Lucifer. When Lucifer rebelled against the Lord part of the immediate judgment against him was losing his home. It was destroyed by hailstones of fire and cast out of our solar system. During the judgment and pounding of hailstones against it the planet's inhabitants were forced to flee to the hollow inside of the hollow planet. It has been the prison of these inhabitants since. In the last days when Lucifer comes to power as the Biblical Antichrist those locked up inside this planet will be loosed and allowed to ascend to earth to help him conquer and control the earth under his power. As this Planet X comes increasingly closer not only will its arrival cause mass destruction from the gravitational pull it will cause on earth but it signals the impending arrival of Lucifer as well since they are part of his forces that will help him maintain control of the earth.

Q: Do the theories of “hollow earth” tie in with all this?
A. Most if not all of the planets and luminaries of our solar system are hollow. The hollow earth contains many terrestrial-alien bases and underground cities. As well as many human underground bases and cities that our military and shadow government of the New World Order have built. Aliens are not extra-terrestrial beings. They are terrestrial beings that inhabit our solar system within the first and second heavens and our subterranean earth. Hell is also located deep within the hollow earth that contains the souls of all those who died and rejected Jesus-Yahushua as their Savior. Many of these subterranean alien races will come to the surface when Lucifer comes to power on earth.

Q: What is the Dulce Base and what can you tell us a little bit about the Dulce Base?
A. The Dulce Base is a major underground grey alien base located under an Indian reservation in Dulce, New Mexico. It is also a major hub for the underground shuttle system that criss-crosses under America and connects all the underground bases together from one side of our country to the other. There are seven known levels of this base, a virtual underground city that is alleged to be the size of Manhattan, and seven levels deep. These levels are not measured as we would measure a 7 story building. Each level could be 100, or 200 feet or higher in height alone, while perhaps others are smaller. These bases such as Dulce go down for several miles within the earth and contain many miles of space within them. Many UFO abductees have remembered being taken to Dulce and there was some information released by a former security guard that I have on my website at http://www.thewatcherfiles.com as well my article on the Dulce base at http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/sherry/dulce-base.html

Q: Some conspiracy theorists have said that the alien conspiracy is manufactured disinfo and that alien abductions are actually just mind control scenarios. How do you feel about this?
A. Well there are many agendas at work to release information, discredit information, and confuse the whole alien-UFO issue so people don't know what to think. Project Blue Book was established not to seriously gather and investigate claims of UFO and alien sightings, but to gather all the information they could just so they could publicly discredit it. Project Yellow Book was the real project investigating the claims made. There are real UFO and alien sightings just as there are military manufactured ones to discredit the real ones. William Cooper caught on to how both scenarios and agendas were working together to deceive the public. Our government owns their own UFO fleet piloted by NSA and DIA pilots and they will also masquerade as aliens to implement their own black agendas.

Q: Who are the Illuminati?
A. The Illuminati are what they call themselves the "illuminated or enlightened ones." They are aliens, i.e. fallen angels posing as our creators and forefathers. They control the earth behind the scenes via an Illuminati Council. Their children, the hybrid 13 Illuminati bloodline families, what they refer to as the "elite" bloodlines, answer to the Council and follow their orders in implementing the New World Order on earth. I have more information on this at http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/serpent-illuminati.htm and http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/serpent-seedline.htm

Q: Why are bloodlines so important to these people?
A. The specific bloodlines of the Illuminati hybrid families have been preserved through inter-marrying over the ages. Instead of trying to keep alien and DNA contamination out of their bloodlines they work to keep pure human DNA from entering into their bloodlines. Those in these families are born with a specific alien DNA that can be activated through ritual and blood drinking to allow for the alien possession of their bodies. The aliens can literally possess their bodies. This possession allows these humans to shape-shift and be controlled by the aliens themselves. These bloodlines are not controlled by the Grey aliens but the lizard type known as the Reptilians. Many people such as Arizona Wilder, Cathy O'Brien, and Bryce Taylor have seen people from these bloodline families such as George Bush Sr., Dick Cheney, Al Gore, Queen Elizabeth, and others shapeshift into Reptilians. It is not "humans" that run our governments.

Q: There is a lot of speculation concerning possible reptilian bloodlines being the driving force behind the NWO. Could you go into to this a little and talk a little bit about the shapeshifting presidents.
A. The Bible says that Satan is the prince and the power of the air, that he can transform (morph, shapeshift) into an angel of light. Satan rules both factions, the Enki and the Enlil. He can shapeshift into an Enlil, his old angelic form and look 'heavenly' and humanoid. I have pictures of him at my website http://www.thewatcherfiles.com So also can the tall greys shapeshift as Enlil. In fact Maitreya, Sananda, St. Germaine, all of these Ascended Masters coming out of the New Age crowd are tall grey aliens who shapeshift into humanoid Enlils. You can read about it at my website http://www.nesarasucks.com It is these beings who play being anti-NWO that are indeed the ones working with the Illuminati Council to establish the NWO here, then they'll replace the NWO with themselves as they ascend to earth and work with Satan/Lucifer to deceive the world that Satan-Sananda is "God." All of the governments on earth implementing and establishing the NWO agenda are mere pawns of these aliens who control them through the Illuminati Council. And you will also find that those in power of world governments are all inter-connected through Illuminati bloodline families. If you look at America's history, almost all of our presidents are related minus maybe three of them. They all carried and carry alien-DNA.

Q: You believe that the Jesuits are major players in the globalist/antichrist conspiracy. Just what is the extent of the Jesuits and Count Peter Hans Kolvenbach’s (Superior General of the Society of Jesus) power?
A. The Jesuits are the right arm of Satan in running and controlling the religions and governments of this world. The Black Pope, Peter Hans Kolvenbach is Satan's right hand man who rules over and directs the Jesuits. The Vatican is Satan's seat on Earth. It is not the position of the white pope, or the pope we see, such as Pope Ratzinger that has the real power in the Vatican, the real power comes from a position hidden away from public view that rules over and controls the white pope and that is the position known as the black pope. And that is the position Peter Hans Kolvenbach holds today. It is the Black Pope that controls and rules over the Jesuits, and thus all the intelligence agencies and governments around the world are under his control. Even in religion and those in powerful and influential religious positions such as Billy Graham, Benny Hinn, Pat Robertson, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuller and many others in these positions of power and influence are secretly Jesuits or high ranking Masons who answer to the Vatican.

Q: In the realm of conspiracy theories the biggest is probably the JFK assassination. Why do you believe JFK was assassinated?
A. There are several interesting reasons as to why JFK was assassinated. Some people believe it was because he wanted to end the Vietnam War (which was being directed by the Vatican because the Vietnamese didn't want Catholicism there), another being that he wanted a full UFO and alien disclosure (which was being hidden by the shadow government), he also wanted a restructuring perhaps complete elimination of the CIA. But the one I find interesting and that is never talked about is the fact that Kennedy wanted Fidel Castro assassinated. He ordered the Bay of Pigs invasion which was set up by the CIA and military but at the same time the CIA had trained a group of Cuban fighters to fight against the incoming Bay of Pigs invasion, which is why the invasion was a failure. Not to mention the fact that it was the Mafia that was hired (out of Chicago) to assassinate Castro and they could never seemingly get the job done because the Mafia itself didn't want to eliminate Castro. But the job that did get done was Kennedy's own death. Our CIA (and Mafia) was protecting Fidel Castro..instead of eliminating him they eliminated Kennedy who kept insisting Castro be assassinated. Interesting isn't it? After all, with the NWO coming into play even back then it is a communistic-fascist order that dominates it, not democracy. That's why it's often referred to as the 4th Reich. The chief of our own Department of Homeland Security is ex-KGB. It is former KGB agents now in top positions in America who designed the impending National ID cards and the system by which they will be used. It is a Russian General in charge of all military troops in the United Nations. Kennedy was to American and to Democratic for the evil ills of the New World Order and he wasn't going to be bullied by them or the Vatican and that's why I believe they killed him.

Q: Could you tell us how you became interested in bible codes?
A. The Lord led me into the codes several years ago. I had no idea why at the time I just kept feeling led to buy the software. Finally I bought the software and thought for sure I would never learn how to use it. It's complicated. But the Lord led me to others who could answer questions and help me out and He also led me Himself on how to operate it and understand not only what I was doing, but how to interpret what I was finding and how to analyze it. I realized along the way that with the skill I had developed in working the software that I could easily debunk false codes that were being promoted as truth. The whole Da Vinci Code and Holy Grail stuff that was coming out was a bunch of Illuminati and NWO lies and disinfo and they were trying to use the codes to prove their lies were truth. I used the same codes to show and prove why they weren't and how they did the codes wrong to begin with in trying to justify their blasphemies and lies. I can prove or disprove any code and find the real truth. I'm one of the best at the codes and they know it. That's why they try to discredit the codes, or even me, because they know I can beat them at their own games upholding the truth of the Bible and the codes. People say the codes are from Satan, all I can ask is, how did Satan know the beginning from the end of time and how did he get his hands on God's Word to encode it if it was inspired by God? The codes prove God is who He said He is and that He is the Alpha and the Omega. That He does know the end from the beginning. The Bible is either inspired or it isn't. It's either from the devil or it's from God. Just because some have erred in their interpretations of the codes doesn't mean the codes aren't valid. They just weren't interpreting them correctly to begin with.

Q: How did you become involved in Reverse Speech and has it helped you in your journey for the truth?
A. I got interested in Reverse Speech after having met Peggy Kane and having her on my radio show to reveal and discuss her findings. I was fascinated by it. It was a whole new area and even a weapon to use in exposing the lies and revealing the truth of what's really going on with people and even our government today. The founder, David Oates just has a remarkable technology in his hands. I haven't had as much time as I would like to spend on it, but what I have been able to find with it just clarifies and confirms things or even brings greater things to light that you weren't fully aware of before.

Q: What is the Book of Enoch and why is it suppressed by the church?
A. The Book of Enoch was originally included in the Apocrypha and also even the original KJV Ethiopian version. But it was never included in the Protestant-American KJV version. Even though Enoch is made reference to several times and the church itself acknowledges him as a great prophet and patriarch of its own history and genealogy. At the same time most people will admit they don't know anything about him and that's because they excluded the Book of Enoch from the Bible. Enoch wrote 365 books. Where are they? Why aren't they, or even one of them in our Bible? Because the Vatican didn't want it included. The Vatican wanted to leave the church(s) in the dark about our past and what the days were really like in the days of Noah. They hid our past so we wouldn't recognize what's coming in our future. Jesus-Yahushua said the last days would be as "the days of Noah" and most of the churches just believe a general time of sin and wickedness. They have no idea what the real and whole truth is. UFOs, alien cross-breeding, hybridization, abductions, everything going on today would be more understood by the churches instead of hidden if they had left Enoch in the Bible. Not to mention the fact that in the days of Noah when the giants ran out of animals to eat they would feed off of humans. And all that is coming back again in the last days. When the Annunaki come masquerading as heavenly beings it won't last long until people realize them for what they really are and by then it will be too late to do anything about it. And when the times of prophesied famine come, who or what do you think these Annunaki are going to be eating? They're going to be feasting on humans, just as in the days of Noah.

Q: Could you tell us more about Maitreya, St. Germaine, Mabus, and Sananda?
A. I believe Sananda is Satan in an angelic humanoid form. Satan always wanted to be worshipped as God. And whose picture has been hanging in our churches for the past 1,500 years? Sananda. The picture of "Jesus" painted by Michelangelo was none other than Sananda or Satan himself. Imagine that. All this time churchdom has practically worshipped that picture as being Jesus and it's none other than Satan himself.

Maitreya is a hideous psychopath playing an Arab who will come touting himself as a great world teacher. He will try to unite all of the world's religions and be "all things to all people." The Christians and Jews would never accept Maitreya as the or even a Messiah..so they'll use Maitreya to deceive the Arabs and anyone else who won't accept Sananda as the Messiah. In Matthew 24 it says that many will come saying "I AM." Christ and deceive many.. and these New Age "Ascended Masters" certainly do that...they all claim "I AM" and that they are Gods, or reached Godhood. Maitreya's been associated with Ethiopia and that's probably where his final appearance here on earth will originate from, where Sananda will come in the clouds in a charade of UFOs portraying the prophesied Second Coming of Christ to deceive the Christians and Jews.

Saint Germaine is supposed to establish NESARA here on earth, the political and economic agenda of the Antichrist's. He also claims to have been several incarnations of various people throughout our history such as Shakespeare and that he was the one who wrote/translated the KJV for King James.

Mabus could simply be Maitreya. I don't see a huge difference in their roles and they both will originate out of Africa. Mabus will play an Arab peacemaker who dies after a short time. It was Nostradamus who introduced the coming of this individual in his own writings. Neither the Bible or the New Age crowd talks about a coming Mabus, at least not with that name. Nostradamus prophesied that when Mabus dies a comet will strike the earth. Mabus is indeed an alien, i.e. fallen angel playing Ascended Master. But they won't tell you that. Another thought is that this Mabus will be a political leader who rises to make peace in the Middle East, such as a leader of the PLO etc..The whole charade can be played either way so I guess we'll find out which one they go with. Satan and his aliens always have more than one plan to bring one of their goons into power or to fulfill a certain role.

Q: Why do you consider Paul a false prophet?
A. Before Jesus-Yahushua left He warned His disciples to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and that people wouldn't accept Him (Yahushua) as the Messiah but that one would come in his own name and that the people would accept him. He was prophesying about the entrance of Paul. People confuse it with a prophecy about the Antichrist when it was about Paul. Who, by the way, was a Pharisee. Yahushua appointed 12 apostles, not 13. Matthias replaced Judas, not Paul. Paul wrote 13 books of which he mentions or refers to himself over 500 times. He was an egotistical self-centered Antichrist who led people away from the truths that Jesus and the legitimate apostles taught and into errors. I have a whole website about Paul at http://www.justgivemethetruth.com For those who wonder why the Bible always sounds contradictory and never makes sense, now you know why. Paul was full of contradictions, "I've never been circumcised" "I was circumcised on the 8th day after I was born" blah blah, he lies and contradicts himself throughout all of his books and even tells his own conversion story different every time he told it, the sign of a pathological liar who can't remember his lies. What's it going to take for people to wake up and realize who and what Paul was? And these are mostly the same people worshipping the picture of Satan/Sananda as Jesus.

Q: Why do you think the late conspiracy theorist William Cooper went back on his claims of UFOs and aliens later on in his life?
A. He didn't go back on them. He realized what was going on and the game that was being played and that's why they were going to throw him in jail to silence him, but he refused to be taken alive and died in a stand-off with police. If you read his writings as much as I have or even his book it's clear that he knew there was a real existence of UFOs and aliens, and then he also stumbled on the black ops agenda to mimic UFOs and aliens with their own accumulated technology. There are many, thousands, perhaps millions of people who have had real UFO abductions, and then you'll hear of some that are just outrageous where a person was abducted and taken to a military base, or they could see black thread around the black eyes of the supposed alien. Real aliens don't speak verbally, they speak through telepathy. Most people don't realize that our government has as much as a chipping program going on as the aliens do. They're both involved in abducting people to implant them with chips for tracking and controlling. It was the aliens who gave our military the technology and that's why people are being abducted to military bases, implanted and then let go. Because the military now has their own black ops agenda with implanting people with chips separate from the alien’s agenda.

Q: What researchers and books do you suggest to the reader? Websites?
A. Well my own of course, Aliens on the Internet and also Bible Codes Revealed: The Coming UFO Invasion. I also would suggest Bryce Taylor's Thanks for the Memories, Cathy O'Brien's Trance-Formation of America, William Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse and Eric Jon Phelps’s Vatican Assassins at http://www.vaticanassassins.org. Also you can read for free Branton's (Bruce Alan Walton) material that I have on my site at http://www.thewatcherfiles.com you can read his books on the Dulce Base, the Omega Files and The Cosmic Conflict which were huge stepping stones in my beginning understanding of what was really going on with aliens, UFOs and underground bases.